Sunday, October 5, 2008

Atheist Starter Kit #07

7. Believe that nothing is 100% certain, except the theory of Darwinian evolution. Do not question it. Believe with all of your heart that there is credible scientific evidence for species-to-species transitional forms. When you make any argument, pat yourself on the back by concluding with "Man, are you busted!" That will make you feel good about yourself. --Ray Comfort
There's lots of things that are 100% certain. Death being one. I was born, I will live , then after a time, I'll die whether by accident or natural cause. That is 100% certain.

One thing that's not 100% certain is evolution. It's the best explaination we have right now, but it's not a 100% certainty. If a better theory came up, then science would abandon evolution in favor of the new theory. That's what science does. One thing that's certain is that creationism is not a better explaination. Just saying, "God dunnit!" is not a good explaination at all. It doesn't answer all the questions. Instead it dismisses them all in one fell swoop.

I remember my dad telling me that foxes and dogs were related. He based this assumption on the number of things that dogs and foxes have in common. My dad is a creationist and would deny that foxes and dogs have a common ancestor. However he recognized the similarities and would say that dogs and foxes are closer realted to each other than either one is realated to cats. Cats share a few thing in common with both foxes and dogs, but foxes share more things in common with dogs. This is because foxes and dogs share a more recent common ancestor with each other than either does with the cat. Even my dad saw the evidence. He just refused to admit it.

As far as believing in evolution with all my heart, I don't. Biology is just not my strong subject. I can't debate anyone on evolution, because I just don't have the biology background to answer any challenges on it. There are some good websites though. Check this out. This too. It seems to me that Ray is pointing at me with one finger while three are pointing back at himself. He accuses atheists of believing in something with no proof, while he champions the same attitude towards God.

One thing I never understood is the connection creationists make between atheism and evolution. There are christian churches that do support accepted science. Episcopals and Catholics both support science education. I even know a few Baptists that dismiss creationism as pseudoscience despite that church's acceptance of creationism. It's obvious that you can be a christian and an evolutionist at the same time. The two are not mutually exclusive. If creationism is added to the requirements for salvation then it becomes legalism. That's something that Ray would not admit to.

Well, I'm going to close this post. I got to go pat myself on the back saying, "Man! Are you busted!" That always makes me feel good.

3 comments:

Pvblivs said...

     Well, I think that large-scale evolution is held as a sacred belief. It does not appear to be testable. To me, it remains an interesting possibility. (It is better than "godidit;" but I'm not going to hang my hat on it.)
     I think it is significant that people who reject Ray's god could be uncommitted on or even possibly reject evolution. It shows that his characterization is false.

bobxxxx said...

One thing that's not 100% certain is evolution. It's the best explaination we have right now, but it's not a 100% certainty. If a better theory came up, then science would abandon evolution in favor of the new theory.

Our understanding of evolution will continue to improve and ideas about the minor details of evolution will change as new evidence requires it. However the basic facts of evolution are not going to change. For example that idea that people and chimps share an ancestor is never going to be disproven for the same reason our planet's orbit around the sun will never be disproven. There's just too much powerful undeniable evidence for it, especially evidence from molecular biology and genetics. Nothing is proven in science but it's just plain nuts to say there's some chance evolution might be false.

That Ray Comfort moron is a batshit insane liar for Jebus. Of course everyone already knows that.

One thing I never understood is the connection creationists make between atheism and evolution.

I understand this perfectly because the creationists are correct. God was invented for many reasons but perhaps the most important reason is because ancient people wanted to invoke a magic fairy to explain the diversity of life. Darwin's beautiful simple idea, natural selection, took away the most important gap that the god-of-the-gaps used to hide in. In my opinion Darwin completely killed the god idea, and this was his greatest accomplishment. Darwin changed the world. The brain-dead creationists know this and that's why they are terrified of modern science, especially evolutionary biology.

What's the cure for the creationism disease which has infected half of the American population? That's simple. Just point at the creationists and laugh at them. Tell them to grow up and stop acting like retards. If they don't like that, just keep laughing at them and ridiculing them, until they understand their breathtaking stupidity will never be allowed in science classrooms.

Anonymous said...

Evolution is not just earth related. Astronomy and cosmology show that the universe is in fact evolving. New star formation in nebulas. Supernovas, young nebulas the result of supernovas, coliding galaxies, first generation stars, red giants, nuetron stars, black holes. The universe is ever expanding never being what it just was, evolving.
Larry M Jhonson